I cannot stop clicking on the vault item to open the target. Having to click on the init graphic or open a menu to go to the target is unlike almost everything we normally do.
Lastpass, if I remember, only requires a click on the item to open. I like that, and I am willing to click elsewhere if I need to do anything else, like edit. This is Bitwarden design is a major negative for me.
@jessicarabbit Welcome to the forum!
Could you please clarify what exactly you mean? It’s very hard to decipher for me what you’re talking about.
Additionally, could you please make clear if you’re talking about the BW desktop app – or the BW browser extension? (or only the iOS app?)
Your use of the word “target” sounds for me like you’re talking about the “launch website” function – or do you mean opening a login item (“View login”)? Or do you speak of any of the various autofill methods in the end? Please clarify.
Please clarify what you mean by “target” and “init graphic”.
You’ve selected the topic tag “app:desktop” for your post, which implies that your question is about Bitwarden’s stand-alone Desktop app; however, Bitwarden does not have a Desktop app for iOS (whereas your use of the “os:ios” tag implies that you are asking about an issue that occurs in the iOS operating system, like on an iPhone).
If your problem is actually with Bitwarden’s browser extension (on a macOS, Windows, or Linux operating system), then you can go to Settings > Vault customization, and disable the option “Click items in autofill suggestions to fill”:
Target is the reason for the entry to exist. Typically, a site login.
Init graphic is the launch thingie.
Bitwarden is a password manager, not a bookmark manager. Arguably, the main reason for a vault login item to exist is to autofill the login credentials (at least as far as the browser extension is concerned).
If you want help, it would be best to answer all questions that have been asked of you above.
Sorry, I can’t make much sense of that either. (as that still is very open for interpretation - and what it could actually mean)
I agree with @grb.
Additionally, it might be helpful to try to describe it in a different way than before. And if you can, posting a screenshot might also be helpful (but before you post that, make sure that you redacted all sensitive information in that screenshot), so that we at least would have an idea about what area or function you are aiming at.
These choices all require “question mark” help as they are not intuitive, or worse.
I must have mis-clicked the IOS choice, I am using MS desktop and browser extensions.
This discussion is out of hand, I just want to click on the item to launch, not the launch icon.
This message is quite clear if one simply reads it, although The last sentence was screwed up.
Should read “This Bitwarden design is a major negative for me.”, meaning where to click to launch.
Below is why I say target as the item in the vault can be one of several types. I haven’t used anything but passwords so I am not sure how these other types but I assume I would perfer to click on the item in the vault list to apply them, not what one gets by clicking on the item now.
Okay, thanks! I now changed the tags to app:browser for the browser extension and os:windows for “MS”.
Okay, I’m sure you know what you mean – but we can only help you, when we know what you mean. And that’s very hard at the moment.
Okay, “not the launch icon”, so you don’t mean this function to launch a website…
… or do you?
And you want “to click on the item to launch”. Ok. But to launch what?
If it’s not the website (/ “launch icon”), then do you want to enter “View login” of the item?
Or, do you want to be able to autofill the item, like when you would click on the “Fill” button in the autofill suggestions (default option in the browser extension):
?
So, also here: Okay… you want to click on the item in the vault list to apply them… But please explain what “apply an item” means for you? Is it the same as “launch” for you?
Please clarify.
What does it mean to “apply” a Note item (or any of the other items)? None of these can be launched, and the most logical action to take would be to either view the item details, or to autofill the information into a web form. The browser extension UI offers you a choice of one of these two behaviors when clicking on an item name in the vault view, and you can set the behavior according to your preference.
However, if you would prefer for clicking of a Login item name to launch the stored website, then you should open a feature request to propose this.
My suggestion tries to be non-specific for a reason. The vault entries can be different flavors. I suggest being able to open the vault and click on the item in the list and have it do what is most rational for the type of item. That can be launch, fill if able, show if just content or none of the above if nothing makes sense. The point is a nice large mindless click zone for the typically desired function rather than having to mouse over to some displayed graphic/menu and clicking on it.
This enables a default streamlined use, with the less frequent functions still provided to click on as needed.
As I said, I just can’t stop reaching up to the vault and just clicking on the item rather than, for example, the launch graphic, and then I have to close the detail display to go back and click on launch. You can assume I am just slow, or you can consider the human factors that are influencing me to keep doing that. As you please.
PS: I do know there is also a helpful Init option graphic on the detail display.
Everybody agrees with this, but if you think that having the item launch a webpage is the “most rational” action (even for a login item), then you are projecting your own personal preferences.
UI design principles (and common sense) would have the largest and most easily accessible click target (i.e., the item name & icon) trigger the most common action, so we do seem to agree on this premise. However, for most Bitwarden users, the most common function is evidently autofilling. For many others, it is opening the vault item to view (and/or edit) its information. Therefore, these are the two options currently available in the browser extension UI.
One reason why alternative functions (e.g., launch) are not available to configure as the default click action is likely the fact that no other action makes sense to perform for all item types (logins, notes, cards, identities, and SSH keys), and assigning a custom action that is different for each type of vault item would violate another UI design principle — the same action (clicking a vault item name) should not produce different results.
You are probably transferring habits and expectations from other contexts (bookmark managers or Google search results).
Per my previous responses, you have two options (other than retraining yourself to work differently in Bitwarden):
Ah, @jessicarabbit thanks for clarifying!
And agreed with @grb…
Theoretically, it could be a request to make the default action by clicking an item (also depending on the item type) customizable/“assignable” by the user. But that would make the Settings section more complex – and, I could imagine, would be a nightmare for development, as for every different default click-item-action the buttons on the right had to change it’s configuration also. (e.g. when clicking the item would cause “launch website”, then the “launch icon” could be removed but “View item” had to be added, as this is the current default click-action etc.)
I am glad that the topic has people thinking.
Last thought, the question of what happens when the vault entry is clicked on is worth consideration. As it is now, I am thinking it is not that useful, so what would be more useful?
Thanks for your time.
Absolutely true, and you can change it if you do not like it. By default, clicking on a vault entry opens it. This can be changed so that clicking on an entry auto fills.
The setting is at: Settings > Appearance
As @grb stated earlier, if there is a third thing you would like it to do instead, open a feature request.
Sidenote: I changed the title to something more obvious (but unfortunately not very short)… Old title: Ease of Init… New title: Change the default action when clicking an item in Vault view? (maybe even different for each item type?) Replaced with @grb’s better suggestion: Customize default actions (other than View or Autofill) when clicking vault items?
@Nail1684 This part of the new topic title is redundant (specifically, the “maybe even” qualifier, and the question mark), since it would not be possible to have the same default action for each item type, if implementing options other than View/Edit or Autofill (except for absurd possibilities, like having the default action be Clone or Delete!). A more comprehensive title for this topic might be: “Customize default actions (other than View or Autofill) when clicking vault items?”
Thanks, I will try that setting. If this were my app, I would switch the launch icon to “Show” and move it to the right end of the icons then use a click on the entry to launch.
The app seems to know when there is potential to fill rather than launch, so it seems like a similar function change would work there. I don’t have any experience with using Identities but if they work like Fills, then same story. Lots of thoughts.
I like the new copy username and Passwords icons update.
