Persistent Bitwarden UI and maintain unsaved data

here, this is a year-old video.
BitWarden, make pinned window
My need has not passed. I can’t figure out who needs the application if going outside of it unexpectedly closes it, and resets all unsaved changes.
The external window sends to your site. But I do not need to enter a login on the site if I am satisfied with only the application.
It’s just a nightmare. After all, I did not invent this clothespin - it will soon be on computers for 100 years. It’s about simple fixation.
A year has passed, but I am constantly stuck in the fact that all the data must be copied to the clipboard in order to paste it into a note and drag it out by fields from there.
But to do this, you need to assemble this clipboard into 1 pile in a text file.
This is not a normal job.
Perhaps there is an option to make a full-fledged sidebar for embedding in Google Chrome? (although I use Vivaldi), maybe there will be options to transfer it to Chromium users.
Make a trailer, a hairpin. Upgrade your app.

Feature name

Auto-save edits on vault timeout

Feature function

  • Auto-save edits on vault timeout

  • Reduce data loss

  • Known issue on desktop application for linux (Unknown if this effects other versions)

    version 2023.2.0
    shell 21.3.1
    renderer 106.0.5249.191
    node 16.16.0
    arch x64

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Comments: This has caused multiple instances of data loss for me, considering abandoning bitwarden as data loss in this type of tool is unacceptable.

Unfortunatelly Bitwarden discards all unsaved changes without a warning at vault timeout. I want Bitwarden to auto-lock after one minute but some registration processes take more than a minute to complete.

In my opinion Bitwarden should not be behind other password managers at this point. This “feature” leads to data loss and can lead to serious account lock out. Saving a draft of the changes requires deeper changes in Bitwarden. I would appreciate at least an option for the action automatically happening at vault timeout. Please add an option “Discard or Save Changes on vault timeout”.

Thanks.

Also see issue #627 on GitHub for further information. According to a contributers comment this is wanted behavior so the issue was immediately closed without action.

Currently it seems the Windows app (I’m using version 2023.5.1) will loose new entries if they are not saved and the app times out and locks.

It’s quite annoying to loose the password for a new account just created. It would be good if the app could keep the new entry (in memory) so it would be available after re-authenticating to the app after it locks.

Just posting on this thread for a +100000 for this feature. Please make this happen!

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Thanks for the hint/tip to use the Firefox’s sidebar. It’s a great workaround for this issue, but can we try to get this implemented?

I’m already starting to think about another password manager.

I think it’s better to automatically save changes than to show a message. If a user inputs a new password and then leaves without hitting “cancel”, it should be assumed that they intended for the new password to be saved.

No, it should not be saved without explicitly clicking on the “Save” button. But, should be saved the form state, with temporary typed data, to be able to continue entering the data from that moment, when you missclicked outside the Birwaden popup modal.

I can suggest 3 model of behaviors.
I agree that modern work is mistakenly, there is constant duplication and foolproof protection. There is a lot of unnecessary movements.
I absolutely do not need the “edit” button. I would like the input immediately in this mode.
in general, an interesting idea, that should be reflected in the settings , without an “edit” button and without a “save” button.
but with a mandatory button “back”.
I think there is not much information in the application that can be saved 1-2 backups, which will overwrite each other.
the model is like this : you enter rigth in “change mode” and exit without additional clicks. the information must be saved + 1-2 backups. maximum working speed.
it is very rare that information is entered incorrectly. It turns out that for the sake of one erroneous click, maybe 1 time a year, it is necessary to perform unnecessary actions constantly.
2. I need a setting that turns off the “stars” all the time. 99% of people use Bitwarden, alone, when there is not a single living soul within a radius of 10 m. And with binoculars within a radius of 100 kilometers :slight_smile:

I’m curious why you say that. From my point of view, the whole concept of a “save” button is almost obsolete. If saving doesn’t consume many resources, and there’s a way to undo any change, there’s not much reason not to assume that every change the user makes is intended. And it greatly simplifies things from the user’s point of view if there’s only one state.

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I would be completely fine with the ‘auto save’ model IF:

  1. it was only in response to clicking to edit - I do not want it to go straight to a mode where it can edit/overwrite at will just cause I chose to view an entry. Note that this would not have to be edit on an entire entry, it could be a pencil or ‘click to edit’ on a field, but it should not be a ‘text field that can be edited just because you were selecting from it’.

  2. if ALL of the content could easily be rolled back to previous versions, and not just a password entry.

Practically speaking though, all of this could be addressed simply by having the Edit button trigger a popout to that entry so that it wouldn’t auto-close.

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to accidentally delete a value in a field, you need a combination of at least 2 actions :

  1. Put the mouse in the field,
  2. the movement of the mouse with the button pressed to highlight information.

is 2 purposeful actions, it is almost impossible to do this by accident.
my wish : to make an "Edit " button configurable (someone needs it, and someone does not ).
it would be the perfect solution.
I don’t need a button “Edit”, I don’t need a stars.
you can leave the "save " button.

everything looks serious on the one hand, on the other hand, it’s funny.
there’s a double protection system, but in fact, you’re just stealing my time ! I still spend seconds every time , when I enter the program to sort out the interface : to decide on these 3 buttons in a row, which one disables the stars, which one copies , which … . a fraction of a second, but it’s annoying every time !
add 10 more buttons, provided that they will be disabled in the settings.
if I need to change, I’ll press the button "edit ". there is no protection against my erroneous actions. well, that is, all this does not make much sense.
if you want to hang dozens of buttons on the program, I agree, but make them switchable off.

Bitwarden is a serious program, large-scale, no one disputes this.
But how do you compare with such a giant as Microsoft office? Starting in 2019, including the mobile version.
Passwords are important for someone, but formulas are more important for someone. microsoft office all changes in the file are saved automatically.
This is exactly the strategy I was talking about. There is a "cancel " button there. Buf there is no “save” button !
each character entered is saved automatically to the cloud. Millions people use, I think, in thousands times more than Bitwarden, and no one has complained yet.
there is no double triple foolproof, and there is backups too.
Your “edit” and stars they don’t protect anything, they just waste my time.

Great thoughts on all sides. I am not picky on the save/edit button or lack thereof and would gladly adapt to either approach. I’d just like to stop losing entered/altered data when I click outside the popup.

Though if they went the route of no save/edit buttons, it would be nice if I could undo a change (in case I deleted data or realized I was editing the wrong vault item.)

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GOD, will anybody from bitwarden do anything after 4 years of begging?

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Late 2023 and still curious if this is on the roadmap. I love Bitwarden and am happilyh switching to it, but this is a usability issue. Thanks for your detailed writeup.

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