+1 to this idea.
It’s pretty wild that this isn’t an option to me.
Everything is a business decision, I get that - but VERY few people are ever going to take the leap from a $40 family plan to a $250+ team option, while many would go from $40 to $50 or $60 for an extra seat or two.
Unconventional families, extended families…all sorts of reasons exist for this, none of which would cut cash-in.
Hi,
+1 to this idea too.
Have there been any updated on this 4 year old feature request? It’s a sales question so it doesn’t seem like it would require any actual development effort on the service?
Apologies for the semi-necro but I was encouraged by Shelby at Bitwarden marketing to find this thread and add my upvote.
My wife and I and our three kids would all fit on one family account, but that leaves grandparents out in the cold on their own account, whereas they really need someone like my wife and I as their back up / BitWarden admin. I could then envision expanding further into the family, getting aunts and uncles and cousins all in the family plan, all able to help each other out.
I see a couple of options:
- Allow the ability to attach a premium personal account to a family account
- Allow the ability to stack family accounts, i.e. you sub to 2+ family accounts, but they’re all part of the same org
How to prevent this undermining the business plan pricing - this approach wouldn’t come with all the additional business features, which should differentiate it enough.
Another +1. Please take my money, just not as much as the jump from family to teams! All good options
- Letting an individual paid account into the org
- Paying a reasonable amount for additional members
- Letting me submit proof from my urologist that I should have had my wings clipped sooner, but these are all dependents in my household.
- Letting me have 2 family plans to double my members but all in the same org.
I just sent an email to support for this exact use case because my extended family consists of 7 people. I had not checked the forums before; I’m posting this in hopes that the Bitwarden team will reconsider.
+1 again, please please please. I have lots of family members that all need me as an admin to get stuff set up for them but setting up separate family groups and having me have an admin account in all of them is crazy! I don’t want to have to swap to 1Password but if this feature is not going to happen then I’m not sure what else I can do.
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I can’t believe this feature request is going into kindergarten this year! They grow up so fast.
I fully support this. Give people the option to pay a reasonable amount to add additional users.
I’d like this as well but cannot vote. Have been a family plan customer for almost two years and still waiting for this feature/capability.
It is disappointing to see that Bitwarden clearly does not want this option for us customers. When our plans were enhanced
, I though maybe this would change too. But alas no. We’re literally trying to give you more money. Just a reasonable amount though, not become a businesses.
For the record, the price difference is now $47.88 per year for 6 people in a family, which balloons to $336 per year for 7 people on a team (since the teams were also enhanced).
Bitwarden, please reconsider this small feature, which would give huge benefits to your most dedicated and evangelistic users.
I would not say that Bitwarden does not want this option for our Families customers. I would say that we know if Bitwarden added the option, then thrifty businesses would immediately abuse it to save a buck. We can’t have one without the other, unfortunately, and as it is business revenue that pays the bills around here and allows Bitwarden to develop the best free password manager out there, I’d say that’s why we’re not allowing for expanding a family org.
Thrifty companies use Vaultwarden.
Perhaps distinguish between families and teams by features, instead of maximum user count, focusing on the thought that business desires “control”, but “sharing” is enough for families.
For example, family plans likely could get by with the only permission being manage-collection, with view and edit becoming restricted to business plans.
And, families can get by with owner and user roles, with admin and custom being limited to business plans.
Families also could be limited to 6 (or fewer) collections. Personally, I only have 3 - Parents, Adults, and Minors.
@DenBesten I had a similar thought…
But to take away some existing features might not have been my first idea.
That would take a lot of the flexibility of the permission structure of the collections for “families”. Especially if there would be more than 6 members, 6 (or fewer) collections could even make the Families plan unusable for some then again.
But I agree with this request here in general. All those that are lucky to have a big family are practically unable to use Bitwarden fully as a sharing option.
Thank you for the candid perspective!
Just to add some ideas to the brainstorm…
What if Premium privileges were removed by default for extra plan members (beyond the initial 6) — Premium subscriptions could then be added à la carte to those extra members who want it.
Let’s say $2.35/mo/user for added non-Premium Family members, and $1.65/mo/user extra for Premium privileges for those added members. This would achieve parity with the Teams subscription rate at $4/mo/user, while allowing families to include that one 7th family member at a total subscription cost of $6.34–$7.99/mo (not cheap, but for some, it may be better than the alternative of excluding the 7th family member altogether).
For the initial 6 family members, you could even offer a lower tier at $1.89/mo without Premium privileges for anybody, and a discounted Premium subscription plan @ $0.35/mo/user for these initial 6 family members; if all six members opt for the Premium add-on, then the subscription fee would total $3.99/mo again (as it is currently).
In the end, I would probably prefer a solution that restricts functionality (similar to what @DenBesten suggested), but I wanted to offer this additional perspective in case these comments engender any internal discussion about potential approaches to the issue…
why not go much simpler than this: as we can buy 1 family plan, allow purchasing another plan and linking the 2 together. cap it at 2 linked. one time buy thingy
i have no idea if the 12 seats are enough for big families, but i hope so.
would 2 family plans be too easy to be abused?
I don’t have the answer to that. Depending on the number of small businesses (i.e., up to a dozen employees) that use Bitwarden, there could be a revenue loss of up to $480/year for each company that switched from the Teams plan to a Family plan. So if there are a few thousand such companies that would make the switch, the loss of revenue could be in the millions of dollars.