Does the Bitwarden development team sometime read the community messages? Could we have a reply from anyone working at Bitwarden to at least know if that’s something they at least talk about ?
Hi @jero the team does its best to keep on top of messages. custom word lists is something to consider for the future, although there is no near term plan at the moment. the current recommendation would be to use the built in passphrase generator and make manual adjustments if needed.
@go12 Did I remember correctly, that @kspearrin at some point expressed that there was some technical reason that would stand in the way of changing the hardcoded word list?
@grb that could be. will check
Evidently, there have been recent developments that are driving Bitwarden to currently undertake an effort to modify to word lists used for passphrase generation. This seems to present an excellent opportunity for Bitwarden to provide support for some of the ideas in this Feature Request thread (ideally, support for user-supplied custom word lists).
Thus, I am bumping this thread in an effort to give this proposal higher visibility during this critical moment in time.
the current recommendation would be to use the built in passphrase generator and make manual adjustments if needed.
A better and safer recommendation imho would be: If you are not comfortable in English on a native level, try finding a passphrase generator in your language until Bitwarden supports generating passphrases in languages other than English. It’s so much tougher to memorize a passphrase in a foreign language, that this can not be safely recommended to everyone. Right now the generator is useless for many people that have other native languages.
Unfortunately it’s not easy to find good multi-language passphrase generators. So right now probably the best bet is to use 5 dices and a list like wordlists-de/de-7776-v1-diceware.txt at main · dys2p/wordlists-de · GitHub
If anyone knows a good multi-language passphrase generator, please feel free to recommend it here.
edit: Found this tool, which has several lists: Diceware Secure Passphrase and Password Generator
@DonkeeeyKong Welcome to the forum!
Aaron Toponce’s WebPassGen site has six different passphrase generators, three of which (“Alternate”, “Cryptocurrency”, and “Diceware”) offer word lists in languages other than English.
If you are going to use dice to roll your own passphrases, then you can download diceware lists in multiple languages from Reinhold’s original Diceware site.
Passphrases are great, but most of the world does not easily memorize English words. Passphrases in Locale (language used by the OS) would improve the user experience and the security feature itself. Assuming that developers will not be able to find word databases in all languages at least starting with a few common languages would help.
@grb Thank you for the kind welcome. And thanks a lot for the links. In the meantime I have taken this opportunity to practice some scripting and created my own bash script to generate passphrases from any diceware compatible word list. ![]()
Bitwarder Password Generator is one of the best features Bitwarden offers to its users. However, I find it difficult to remember english-based password being a French Native myself !
Maybe I am wrong, but I believe those speaking several languages would love being able to select the language they want a password generated to ! IE: Bank in France in French and bank
If you think this would be a good feature to add, don’t hesitate to vote !
Thank you very much to you all !
@Heidi-Spano Welcome to the forum!
I moved your post into the existing feature request on the same topic.
And please don’t forget to upvote this request.
Definitely a must have ! And, if Bitwarden does not want to have those lists public, then offering a way to at least select another language would be a must !
Note: I changed the title from Choose the word list for passphrases to Choose the word list for passphrases (and for the random words username generator). – As random words would certainly also be based on the availability of word lists in other languages (at least “in the background”), those two aspects are intertwined, and I think it makes sense to include the random words generator into this existing request.
I am from Germany and I would like to have a feature in Username Generator to provide usernames in German. At the moment all the usernames are generated in English and I have to use 3rd party websites and tools to generate usernames in German.
Considering I trust BW with my passwords, I like to minimize my exposure of confidential data (even the usernames) to non-secure platforms, therefore BW should have this feature
@Naxterra I moved your post into this existing feature request on the same topic.
Excellent idea. To add to that, it would be my preference to be able to pick a separate language for both. Passwords are for me to remember (so preferably in my native language) and usernames in English for obfuscation and operational security (hiding my nationality).
Hi! I would love for this feature to be implemented! If there is no one working on it, I am willing to contribute with a PR.
Just let me know whether the team had any preference for either including localised lists or allowing custom list upload by end-user.
Left to my own devices, I would probably implement it with custom word lists, inside credentialPreferences, which already exists and is correctly persisted. UI TBD.
Hey @luigig44 regarding contributions, feel free to connect with the developers through Github discussions.
You can also check out the contributing guide here: https://contributing.bitwarden.com/
Custom, user-definable word lists are the way to go (in my personal opinion). This will accommodate the all user preferences and use-cases, and Bitwarden will not have to worry about vetting the contents of hard-coded word lists (for purposes of ensuring that they do not contain words that could be perceived as offensive).